slowhand Digest Volume 01 : Issue 288 Today's Topics: Too Fat? Re: Is EC running a little too fat? Looking for MP3s GOOD TO THE VERY LAST DROP....... George Harrison RIP George Re: The Slow Digest EC at budokan (fwd) RIP Quiet One All Things Must Pass (fwd) Fw: A comment regarding EC's career All Things Must Pass (NCC) Administrivia: To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to; slowhand-request@planet-torque.com with the subject 'unsubscribe'. This is an automated service. Submissions to the list should be sent to; slowhand@planet-torque.com *** --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: "Robert W. Rost"Subject: Too Fat? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It doesn't surprise me that a 16 year old would like pre-Blind Faith stuff more than Reptile. The music of Cream is high energy, loud, anti-establishment. When I was 16 I was full of energy, wanted to be 21, and liked to listen to music that my parents didn't like. I wanted to be different. I think that it is a testament to the music that Cream made that a 16 old of today would still listen to that music. I don't listen to Cream much anymore. I've always really liked Derek and the Dominos In Concert. But I don't listen to that much anymore either. It takes a lot of energy to listen to that record. I listen when I want to remember a simpler time. But, I have no desire to return to 16. Today, I've changed, grown older (46 next week) and my musical tastes have changed. Not that my taste in music is better or worse, only different. If the same thing didn't happen to EC I'd be totally surprised. He has to have changed, grown, and needs to explore different musical styles. I think his true love is still the blues. But there is so much other music out there to explore and enjoy. Bob Rost Clapton page: http://milkyway.mie.uc.edu/~bob/clapton.html Mail to bob.rost@uc.edu --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: "Robert F. Green" Subject: Re: Is EC running a little too fat? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit She's 16. She is more interested in Limp Biscuit, no? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shanahan" Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: Is EC running a little too fat? > In response to all of DeltaNick's thought provoking questions........... > > Yes. > > (My 16 year old daughter, who has had Clapton rammed down her throat [and > ears] for years, refuses to listen to any EC after Blind Faith) > > T > --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: "Ken Norris" Subject: Looking for MP3s Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I am looking for three MP3s: Rock Me Baby, from BB's Duets The Thrill Is Gone from Concert of the Century Stone Free from the Hendrix tribute album Please contact me privately if you have them or know where I can find them. Thanks. Ken --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: Pepper461@aol.com Subject: GOOD TO THE VERY LAST DROP....... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <> This is an interesting premise, one I have heard before and which seems to have some merit. I think the pent-up emotion of youth with its attendant energy and need to prove oneself may be, in part, a catalyst for the surge of creativity and "shock of the new" (to quote art critic Robert Hughes) that characterizes so much early work of gifted people. I am not prepared to dispute this theory wholesale ... but I will say that there are some glaring exceptions to the rule, if it is, indeed, a *rule*. Four brief examples: Michelangelo (age 89) The Rondanini Pietá Beethoven: (age 56) The Late Quartets Verdi: (age 73) Otello Matisse (age 73) Jazz All of the above masters created numerous works of reputation/career-making quality and value in their final years, works which served not only as a summation, culmination and celebration of their own careers, but which was visionary and made the leap to future artistic expression we can only appreciate in hindsight. And, there are many others. A comforting thought for those of us not getting any younger. WOLF --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: "Jesse O'Rourke" Subject: George Harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Its awfully close to home when a contemporary like Harrison passes. He's a legend in his own right, but his passing also should make us grateful that someone like Clapton is still around and making music. Lord knows Clapton is as old as Harrison was and had demons that could have made his life a lot shorter than it has been. So let's mourn George's passing, but be grateful that Eric's still making music- whether its the sort of music you want him to be making or not. Rest in Peace Jesse --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: Bryan Reid Subject: RIP George Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Beatle George Harrison dies November 30, 2001 Posted: 8:09 AM EST (1309 GMT) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- George Harrison, the lead guitarist in the most influential pop group of all time, The Beatles, has died aged 58, his spokesman confirmed to CNN. Harrison died in Los Angeles at 1:30 p.m. (2130 GMT) on Thursday after a battle with cancer, spokesman Geoff Baker said, but further details were not available. His family issued a statement saying: "He left this world as he lived in it, conscious of God, fearless of death, and at peace, surrounded by family and friends. He often said, 'Everything else can wait but the search for God cannot wait, and love one another."' "He died with one thought in mind -- love one another," friend Gavin De Becker told The Associated Press, adding that Harrison's wife, Olivia Harrison, and son Dhani, 24, were with him when he died. His former band-mate Sir Paul McCartney told the Press Association: "I am devastated and very very sad. We knew he'd been ill for a long time. "He was a lovely guy and a very brave man and had a wonderful sense of humour. He is really just my baby brother." Harrison was known as the quiet one of the Fab Four, which conquered the world with 27 number one hits in the United States and Britain.. His credits with The Beatles include the songs, "Taxman," "Here Comes the Sun" and "Something," the latter described by Frank Sinatra as the greatest love song of all time. The youngest member of the world's most famous pop group will always be remembered for his devotion to Oriental mysticism. It was he who persuaded the other Beatles to fly to India and sit at the feet of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. After The Beatles broke up in 1970 Harrison produced a few solo albums, and was the first of the four to top the UK singles charts as a solo artist with "My Sweet Lord." Later he helped form the group The Travelling Wilburys. With Harrison's death, there now remain two surviving Beatles, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. John Lennon was shot to death by a deranged fan in 1980. In 1998, when former smoker Harrison disclosed that he had been treated for throat cancer, he said: "It reminds you that anything can happen." The following year, he survived an attack by an intruder at his mansion in Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire. He was stabbed several times and suffered a punctured lung. In July 2001, he released a statement asking fans not to worry about reports that he was still battling cancer. It wasn't immediately known if there would be a public funeral for Harrison. A private ceremony had already taken place, De Becker said. Lennon's widow Yoko Ono paid tribute to Harrison, who she said brought magic to the lives of those who knew him. "George has given so much to us in his lifetime and continues to do so even after his passing, with his music, his wit and his wisdom," she told The Press Association. "His life was magical and we all felt we had shared a little bit of it by knowing him. "Thank-you George, it was grand knowing you." --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: hilker.g@pg.com Subject: Re: The Slow Digest Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DeltaNick posed a bunch of questions. Since the subject of his message was "The Slow Digest", I can't help but think that he was trying to provoke us into a conversation... No, I don't like *everything* that Clapton does - never have and probably never will. OTOH, I don't like *everything* that *I* do, either. ;) Point is: I always liked *lots* of what EC has done and; therefore, I'm a fan. My personal opinion is that Clapton is basically an honest guy trying to make his way through life who also happens to have a tremendous talent for music. If the music he does appeals to me, that's great; if not, so be it. (Over the past 35+ years he certainly has put out *tons* of music that's appealed to me, though!) Who am I to rey to tell him what music he should play or not? If I don't like it, I simply don't listen to it... Y'all have a good weekend! Greg Hilker --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: David Hillman Subject: EC at budokan (fwd) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:35:15 -0500 From: "McMeekin, William D" Cc: slowhand@planet-torque.com Subject: EC at budokan Well I don’t know who I saw at The Budokan Last night but it was not the typical E.C. This Gaijine was energetic, animated, and generally happy to be performing. I almost dropped my obento box when he ripped through one blazing solo after another. He played acoustic guitar with such gusto and gave 100% on each song. His electric set was great as well. River of tears had a solo that was incredible. The acoustic solo on Change the world, did. I saw him in Seattle last summer and this was definitely one of the best shows I have seen since Jones beach 85. Both versions of Laya were played. Last night I swear that he was out of the box both vocally and musically. I am in town until Monday and it looks like I will buy a ticket from a scalper to see another show. P.S. I have never seen so many souvenirs’ in all of my life. They actually had a figurine of him “Just one night pose” incased in Lucite. --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Gazza?= Subject: RIP Quiet One Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit George LOVE 4 Ever. Gaz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: David Hillman Subject: All Things Must Pass (fwd) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:03:27 -0500 From: AnEnglishBoy Subject: All Things Must Pass I got a phone call at 1:00 am awakening me to the horrible, but inevitable, news that George Harrison passed away, from a fellow BeaTle fanatic I will collect my thoughts before speaking, because this is a devastating blow to me, however forwarned and prepared I was. For info on the passing, as well as the life and music of George Harrison, check out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ A bad day, and another date on the calendar to turn dark. "Let me in here You know I 've been here Let me show it to you Let me know you Let me show you Let me roll it to you All I have is yours All you see is mine And I'd love to hold you in my arms I'd have you anytime." ~from "All Things Must Pass"....opening track ~written by George Harrison & Bob Dylan ~with exquisite guitar by Eric Clapton "Isn't it a pity? Now isn't it a shame? How we break each other's hearts, And cause each other pain? How we take each others love Without thinking anymore Forgetting to give back Now isn't it a pity?" ~from "All Things Must Pass" ~by George Harrison "You don't realise how much I need you Love you all the time and never leave you So come on back to me I'm lonely as can be I need you Said you had a thing or two to tell me How was I to know you would upset me I didn't realise As I looked in your eyes You told me Ah yes, you told me You don't want my lovin' anymore That's when it hurt me And feeling like this I just can't go on anymore Please remember how I feel about you And I cannot really live without you So come on back to me I'm lonely as can be I need you." ~from the album and film "Help" 1965 ~George Harrison ~as performed by TheBeaTles (in the wind & rain) Pete Ham, Tommy Evans (both of Badfinger) and Johnny are all tunin' up and ready for ya George. I will always miss you. Lew.....aka "AnEnglishBoy" --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: "Scott Wallenberg" Subject: Fw: A comment regarding EC's career Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Note: I am forwarding this response to Delta Nicks thread to the digest from one of my bandmates who himself is a very incredible guitar player and disciple of EC's playing. I will gladly forward any comments from you to him. Scott Subject: Re: A comment regarding EC's career >From Rick: In a famous scene from "Dirty Harry", Clint Eastwood spews sarcastically to a bad guy: "A mans got'sta know his limitations" The flip side of this might be, "A mans should recognize and follow that at which he excels" Clapton doesn't seem to be able recognize either - - and/or he just doesn't care to. Clapton's genuis is centered in his ability to create emotion with a guitar. One of his primary, if not THE primary, personal trademarks is the feel and the incredible, violin-like vibrato that permeated his playing in the early days (Mayall-Cream). I've never heard anyone play like that in the 25+ years I've been closely listening to and playing guitar. The other key component to his playing was emotion - - desperate, urgent energy displayed through a true desire to play. The second component, true inner emotion and the desire to play, has been absent from much of his playing for many, many years. In short, it seems life has beaten this part of Clapton, and, as a result, he plays like a tired, old man. Sure, he does it better than most, and sure, there are moments of punctuated, driven riffs here and there, but he has been "going through the motions" for much of the past 20 years or so. He even showed some of these characteristics here and there on the Layla sessions. Was it not Duane Allman that rescued that drugged-out, disintegrating project ? I was truly dismayed when I learned (only very recently at that), that it was Duane that fired up "Why Does Love Have to Be So Sad" as well as the trademark burning intro riff in the song "Layla." One of the trail-blazing trademarks of Cream was improvisation and risk-taking. The only musical risk Clapton has taken in a long time is the risk that even his true fans would become fed up with his bullshit. I once worked in a fast-food type deli in a ski-resort. It was the only show in town. One of the owners once quipped: "Give 'em shit, they'll eat it." Maybe Clapton read his book. Clapton has been going through the motions for so long, that he seems to have bought into the fact he can try 50%, and its good enough. The Emperor seems to believe that no-one sees the polyester in the clothes he thinks he is wearing. One of reasons is, perhaps, that old die-hard fans (like I used to be) kept buying his half-ass albums, and going to his drunken-sloppy concerts in hopes that one day the Phoenix would rise again. Well my friends, it seems that the Phoenix is nothing but a hummingbird, darting here-to-there, keeping his fans guessing . . . Regarding the first component mentioned, Clapton changed his vibrato and feel not long after the Blind Faith project. Somebody stole the Mona Lisa, and the sad part, it is the artist who painted her. His new, "upward-bending" vibrato can be effective, and sometimes pretty cool, but it ain't the same. What is particularily interesting to me, is that the Blue's guitar "gods" that Clapton seems so desperate to gain the respect from still have their own fire, and still play their own trademark styles. Clapton doesn't seem to understand that truly great Blue's playing can't be faked. It comes from within. You can't try on somebody elses Blue's suit and be a great blues player. Look at Buddy Guy, Albert and BB King . . . do they change their styles and their equipment to try to sound like each other ??? No. They recognize their own genius and stick with it. That's the secret to success. Even though Stevie Ray Vaughn stole/borrowed a ton of Albert King licks, he made it his own, and he stuck with it. You don't go to a kosher deli and expect to get great Kung Pao Chicken . . . Clapton is a great blues-rock player. He ain't a true, old-fashioned blues player, no matter how desparately he wants to be. Yes, he plays old-fashioned blues style better than most (better than me, for sure), but Luciano Pavarotti could also sing Peter,Paul, and Mary songs better than me - - but what would that prove? As a side note, I assume Luciano, unlike Clapton, is wise enough not to go this route. Clapton needs to understand this concept, and the fact that no matter how many authentic blues guitars he whipped out during one of his old "From the Cradle" tours, he wasn't Buddy Guy, he wasn't BB King, he wasn't Freddie King, and he wasn't Albert King. No, was, and still is, Eric Clapton, and he will never, ever be great again until he recognizes that fact. (by the way, those of you who think his playing was great on "Riding with the King" are listening as a member of the "EC Can Do No Wrong" fan club. Objective listening reveals that he was adequate, with a cool riff here and there, but nothing more. If that was the only album he ever appeared on, you'd never hear about him again. There are many, many players here on the L.A. circuit alone that could have done as good, if not a better, job. To me, only BB sounds "real" on that record. I would also speculate that EC's been surrounded by ass-kissing "yes" men for many years. EC apparently does not have sufficient personal conviction in himself to figure out that he's being hosed by the leeches and hangers-on that use him to further there own agenda. (Gee, Phil "I always wanted to dress up in Diana Ross's G-string" Collins, are you listening ????). How about the latest "rap-hip-hop-artist-producer" idiots that Clapton is hanging with. "Gee, Eric, you look simply mahvelous in that Armani suit; your sooooooooo cool, and boy can you sing soul (NOT) . . . " "By the way, can I produce (and musically rape) your next album ?" "Have your agent's agent call my personal assistant's hairdresser, and we'll do lunch sometime . . ." Well, that's about it. Did I tell you guys that if you put a Clapton CD, like, for example, "Reptile" in the microwave for approximately six seconds, it makes a great psychodelic coaster ???? (warning: don't try this at home) Bye --=_--SlowhandDigest-- From: Russ Dugoni Subject: All Things Must Pass (NCC) Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit George Harrison will be missed. Coming into work today I listened to the newly remastered 'All Things Must Pass' CD. Really terrific! Song: Isn't It A Pity Composer: Harrison Vocals: George Harrison Year: 1970 Isn't it a pity Now, isn't it a shame How we break each other's hearts And cause each other pain How we take each other's love Without thinking anymore Forgetting to give back Isn't it a pity Some things take so long But how do I explain When not too many people Can see we're all the same And because of all their tears Their eyes can't hope to see The beauty that surrounds them Isn't it a pity Isn't it a pity Isn't is a shame How we break each other's hearts And cause each other pain How we take each other's love Without thinking anymore Forgetting to give back Isn't it a pity Forgetting to give back Isn't it a pity Forgetting to give back Now, isn't it a pity (6 times, fade the 6th:) What a pity What a pity, pity, pity What a pity What a pity, pity, pity ---- A very nice site: http://www.allthingsmustpass.com/ http://web.mit.edu/scholvin/www/harrison/harrison.html This is a terrific cd too: Name: Live In Japan Band: George Harrison US Release: 14th July 1992 CD-Number: 7599-26964-2 I Want To Tell You Old Brown Shoe Taxman Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) If I Needed Someone Something What Is Life Dark Horse Piggies Got My Mind Set On You -- Cloud 9 Here Comes The Sun My Sweet Lord All Those Years Ago Cheer Down Devil's Radio Isn't It A Pity While My Guitar Gently Weeps Roll Over Beethoven End of slowhand Digest V01 Issue #288
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