slowhand Digest Volume 01 : Issue 292
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RE: The Slow Digest
Re: Re: The Slow Digest
Re: The Slow Digest
Hold the BEEF, please
"Same Old Blues" covers
clapton can mail it
EC Broadcasts
Re: MP3s of the week/ Looking for MP3s
Re: looking for "The Edge"
EC on Brothers in arms ?
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From: Richard Batty
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Subject: RE: The Slow Digest
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Jonathan,
I agree with your appreciation of EC's maturity. However, as yet another
example of music appeal, to paraphrase an old saying, in the ear of the
beholder:
1. I loved Cream's Crossroads when I first heard it and it is still my
favorite rock song of all time. To me, EC sounds possessed in the two
solos. Of course, he is frequently quoted as not liking it!
2. I also love Modern Girl. It has a sadness about it that I find very
moving. Was it not written about the Sheryl Crow breakup?
Since I believe that we all have individual preferences, I must admit I get
tired of the almost non-stop slamming of EC since his Cream days. Jimi
Hendrix would probably be getting the same treatment if he had lived.
Personally I'm very thankful for the abundance of music EC has produced
since Cream. I like some of it more, some of it less, but just because I
like to listen to I'm So Glad from Live Cream doesn't stop me liking
Reptile.
And quite seriously, I really like TDF!
Rick
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From: Jonathan Clermont [mailto:jclerm@yahoo.com]
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Subject: Re: The Slow Digest
It's interesting to me, Nick, that you remain such an
active digest presence while you remain, for the most
part, underwhelmed by EC. Sure I enjoy a lot of the
Cream stuff, but to answer your question... no, I
don't think EC has gotten fat musically ever since.
If I had I would have tired of him years ago.
I'm not going to defend reptile too vehemently. But I
am not ready to push it aside either. It usually
takes time for me to appreciate his new albums as they
come. I am at the point now, as a matter of fact,
where I am looking back on Pilgrim as a high point (I
realize that this is not a popular stance).
I really don't interpret EC's growth into adulthood as
anything other than a constant improvement. He was
just a kid in the sixties, and for the most past he
was stoned through all of it. I listen to his solos,
they sound sloppy. Everyone's always so enthusiastic
about the old live crossroads; it sounds kind of
clunky to me. I don't see how anyone can even compare
it to, say, a River Of Tears solo from the current
tour, but I'm sure someone will. I guess it's all a
matter of what happens once the music has entered our
ears. The newer stuff just gets me in a way that the
old Jack-Bruced-out clutter never has come close to.
I see Eric in interviews now, and I'm almost brought
to tears. He has truely mastered a balance between
clear-headedness, and emotion, not to mention
worldliness and grace. I believe this shows in his
music. and yes, I believe that this is a better
quality in a musician than drugged-out
disorganization.
...but, just to make sure we can all agree on
something--I recently listened to Reptile and can say
in all honestly that Modern Girl sucks!
I look forward to further correspondence on this,
Jonathan
Delta Nick Wrote...
Folks, issue #282 was the briefest I've ever seen.
Must be a slow news
month, because the Slowhand Digest is getting smaller
and shorter. So,
in
the interest of generating some discussion, I'll just
stir the pot ...
Do any of you think that EC has become predictable and
boring? Do you
think
he's just coasting ... and stopped heavy lifting some
time back? When?
Do you think he cares?
I can listen to "Reptile," but it's pretty much
background music only.
Nice
album, but it's not a great album. And I certainly
feel that it's much
more
listenable than the drek he put out in the 1970s. Do
you find yourself
REALLY listening to this album, or just putting it on
for some pleasant
sounds, while you do something else? To which albums
do you REALLY
listen; I
mean, when you close your eyes and forget,
momentarily, about
everything
else in the world? Is "Reptile" this kind of an album?
Can we expect
more of
such "pleasant" music from Eric Clapton? Will he ever
really "rock"
again?
When was the last time you think he really rocked?
Although it's clear that EC sings much better today,
do you think his
guitar
playing has changed in the past two decades? People
say that his guitar
playing changed following the '60s, because he had to
grow. But one CAN
grow
in unpleasant directions. Getting fat is growth too,
right? And some
older
folks actually grow smaller. Has Clapton grown fat
musically? Is he
musically shrinking? Is his musical well dried up?
Does Clapton's music
really excite you any longer? Is his guitar playing
anything special
any
more?
Do you think that maybe some fans are just confused,
that his guitar
playing
changed dramatically, following the '60s, as a result
of drug and
alcohol
abuse. Do you think that some people have confused
this with "growth"?
If
his guitar playing continued to grow following the
'60s, did it ever
stop
growing, such as during the '70s or '80s? On a
commercial recording,
when
was his last great guitar solo?
Is Clapton primarily a singer, or a guitarist? Is the
guitar something
he
just wears around his neck, something to occupy his
hands while he's
singing
on stage?
Do too many fans fawn and gush over everything EC
does? Is Clapton
capable
of making bad music? If Clapton burps, how many fans
will believe he
has
attained new musical heights?
Enquiring readers want to know.
DeltaNick
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From: hilker.g@pg.com
Cc: jclerm@yahoo.com, deltanick@home.com
Subject: Re: Re: The Slow Digest
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Jonathan,
I have *never* had the impression that DeltaNick was "underwelmed" by Clapton.
Give the guy some slack - all he did was propose a number of questions to get
things going here on the digest...
Greg
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It's interesting to me, Nick, that you remain such an active digest presence
while you remain, for the most part, underwhelmed by EC>>>
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From: "DeltaNick"
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>> It's interesting to me, Nick, that you remain such an active digest
presence while you remain, for the most part, underwhelmed by EC. <<
Jonathan,
As I stated, the Slowhand Digest had a "slow news" day, so I asked several
questions to stir things up. You appear to make the assumption that all the
questions reflect my opinions. This is, of course, not the case.
DeltaNick
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From: Pepper461@aol.com
Subject: Hold the BEEF, please
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Well, see, difference of opinion, as is so often the case. Guess that is why
I wish EC had a contract with, say, Rhino Records....or Point Blank or some
company that would not feel the need to *BEEF UP* his playing. To my mind
(and ears) Warner/Reprise typifies the music industry behemoth with little
creativity/sensitivty in their dealings w/ artist or fan. They know they
have a cash cow in EC but they don't seem to trust him as a musician. They
are predicable and stingy, particularly toward the US record buying public
and they don't even promote him all that much/well compared to some of their
other *artists*. Still, in the corporate rock world, he's a commodity. I
suspect he knows it. He recently(6/01) was quoted in a Rolling Stone
interview as saying :" My life in music is eternal. But the notion of trying
to fit into an industry that I no longer have any admiration for..." The
author of the article adding "his voice trails off, not in disgust or
weariness, but in sadness."
Yeah, I can relate to that.
WOLF
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From: "Jim Bachman"
Subject: "Same Old Blues" covers
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Anyone have the covers for this show, "Same Old Blues" New York April =
27, 1987?? If so, could you e-mail them to me?
thanks
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From: KingoftheBlues@webtv.net (M P)
Subject: clapton can mail it
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After hearing all the experts this is funny.Have you ever played
guitar(Delta Nick)What is he doing with the Bluesbreakers that he hasn't
done now.He can dust anyone with shear will.He is the only artist who
has transcended thirty five years .Who is in more demand , played on
more peoples albums ,than any other artist.Why? Because he is that
good.Can Eric Clapton Put out any thing he wants to.Yes .Can Eric
Clapton dust any guitarist with phrasing ,emotion and just shear will.
Why is Eric Clapton still as popular today ,more than any other artist
of his time.He is that Good .He tries to be humble, but believe me,he
knows how good he is.So, if anybody can play ,what he plays.
,let me know
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From: "Graves, Scott"
Subject: EC Broadcasts
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There's been a bit of talk recently about Radio stations broadcasting EC's
shows, either in full or excerpts.
However, I've yet to hear of anyone claiming to have actually heard/taped
one of these broadcasts.
If you have a copy of any of these shows and are willing/ready/able to share
the please drop me a mail. I've got a fair bit to trade with so it may be
worth your while.
PS - Just heard that Doyle Bramhall will NOT be touring with Roger Waters
over here next year. I've just secured tickets for that so it's a bit of a
bummer. However, it may mean that we see him over here touring on his own at
some point - Hurrah!!!!
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From: LukeLinus
Subject: Re: MP3s of the week/ Looking for MP3s
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A reminder to everybody into mp3-files.
I started a group on audigalaxy to swap
those files amongst the group members.
Its really easy. All you need to do is
download the audiogalaxy software.
You will find it for free at:
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0,10151,0-1896420-106-0-1-5,00.html?tag=st.dl.1896420-106-1.lst-5.lst&
with lots of information. Group name is
SLOWHAND. Its really incredible. I am on the
Sting group as well. Shortly after Sting appears
on radio or TV or web somewhere in the world
theres always somebody who taped it, transfers
it into an mp3-file and sends it out with one click
to all group members through audiogalaxy.
email me at pkoehlen@aol.com if you have any
questions
for searches you might like morpheus as well
(same link above)
regards
Peter K/ Germany
last show: Steve Lukather / Helmond Holland
next show: Aynsley Lister / Rheinberg Germany
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From: "loraine taylor"
Subject: Re: looking for "The Edge"
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James Fox wrote:
> Could some kind soul please tell me how I might obtain a copy of the
>1985 studio recording of "Edge Of Darkness" ?
I don't know about the studio recording, but I LOVE the version EC plays
live on "24 Nights"!!
Loraine
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From: LukeLinus
Subject: EC on Brothers in arms ?
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In the vinyl album liner notes of Dire Straits
Brothers in arms album Eric is being thanked. Does
anyone know whether he actually played on that album
and if yes on which track?
best regards
Peter K/ Germany
eMail: pkoehlen@aol.com
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