slowhand Digest Volume 02 : Issue 14
Today's Topics:
Re: Buddy
appreciated
Tulsa Tribute
Re: Portland 2001 Show
arrogance
Fw: surprise?
Re: Buddy Guy and EC
Tree Announcement for Doyle Bramhall II Set
Thank God..
Re: Overrated???
Thank God...
keeping the blues alive
RE:Buddy Whittington
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From: Gerd Klaassen
Subject: Re: Buddy
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>>
Also, does anyone know how good the new Mayall guitarist Buddy Whittington is? He's not new, but
the latest rather. Anyone heard him play? please advise
<<
On the latest Mayall CD "along for the ride" he played the part which EC
should play (something about my baby). I remember an interview
with JM where he said something like "I wished EC played it, but when
is was clear that he didn't, we decided to ask Buddy to do it, and
I have to say that EC couldn't have played it better" (english -> german ->
back to english...). I think he did a good job on this.
Keep on,
Gerd
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From: Ken Maksin
Subject: appreciated
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Lots of bands Clapton can't compete during that period?!?@@?
what?!@>?*>!@???
name some. Please.
thanks,
ken m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Don't get me wrong, there are lots of bands from the '70s, '80s, and '90s
that I listen to, from blues to rock to jazz to pop, and Clapton's
offerings from that time period can't compete.
Tony
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From: Jon Maclean
Subject: Tulsa Tribute
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned on the Digest yet, but I read
recently (thanks ECDU) that a Tulsa Tribute album co-produced by former
Clapton drummer Jamie Oldaker was in the pipeline. Clapton has apparently
already recorded "Positively" for the project, and Vince Gill has also done
a song. Other artists will follow suit, with recording to take place in
Nashville over the next 6 months.
The working title of the album is "Mad Dogs And Okies". Sounds like it will
be an interesting concept.
Let's hope people like J.J. Cale, Leon Russell and Marc Benno are also
involved.
Cheers,
Jon
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From: "EC FAQ"
Subject: Re: Portland 2001 Show
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Geez, what a setup question for Delta Nick!
SH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Cox"
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:06 PM
Subject: Portland 2001 Show
> Okay... maybe I'm just a little out of the loop... but I don't remember
ever
> hearing about the all-gibson show in portland this past year. (at least
not
> until a passing mention of it in yesterday's SD). Could someone with a
> better memory prehaps spare this poor soul some details as to what guitars
> he used on what songs... and if there's a decent boot floating about, I'm
up
> for a trade.
>
> -Sean.
>
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From: GREG Wenker
Subject: arrogance
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Why is it that arrogant Olli and company can't
accept that some people might like the early Clapton
over his later work, without disparaging us. I'm not a
pot head,I've owned my own home for years and not once
during that time did I live in my mother's basement,
my IQ is not in the single digits and I'm capable of
accepting change in my life. And by God I still like
CREAM!!!!!
g.w.
p.s. I don't drive a multi-colored VW bus,either...
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From: "DeltaNick"
Subject: Fw: surprise?
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Posting the below for another subscriber.
DeltaNick
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From: "lia"
To: "DeltaNick"
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 02:35 PM
Subject: Re: surprise?
I don't know if I sent the following rightly to the revue. If you find it of
an interest please put it on the slowhanders' magazine.
Thanks
lia
Here is what I tried to send:
On an Italian Tv channel called Rete4, I have just happened to see an
interview with Eric's former lover Ms Lory Del Santo.
While recalling about 1985 when she was asked to go to a party after a
concert of a rock star??? performing in Milan she said she almost refused to
go and later reluctanctly went to the party where she met that famous person
she had never heard of .
In the following days she started to read on newspapers about him and then
she finally realized she knew a song of his.
Anyway Del Santo kept on saying they fell in love and when their baby was
born, as a present for her, Eric gave Lory Del Santo a tape with a beautiful
song especially composed and dedicated to her and the baby that nobody has
ever heard apart for herself and the author. She said it was a very fine
song.
Then she added she had it at home and one day maybe.... she could let it out
Still talking about that, she remembered that in a sad moment after the
tragedy she decided to get rid of all her past, so Ms Del Santo threw
everything concerning that relationship away including pictures and the
tape.
After seven years looking for something else in her cellar she found the
tape back (she couldn't figure out it was still in her house) and being
partly damaged she had the tape restored.
Does anybody know if Clapton has ever mentioned or spoke about this song??
Lia
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From: "Marissom Roso"
Subject: Re: Buddy Guy and EC
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Who is Greg Kot? Critical of Rock? Ohhhhhh, I thought he was the new God!
Because this insignificant man didn't talk the same nonsenses about Clapton
in front of Buddy Guy? Doesn't he have conviction or courage? Or because he
can't make his theatrical number without rehersal (LOL)
Thank you for your post, Dale.
Killer
they call me Killer ICQ 5119927
www.gpsnet.com.br/ericclapton_killer
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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:30 PM
Subject: Buddy Guy and EC
> Last Night on "Sound Opinions", a weekly radio talk show on WXRT hosted by
> Greg Kot and Jim Derogadis, rock critics for the Chicago Tribune and
> Chicago Sun Times, respectively, Buddy Guy was the live, in-studio gust.
> He played a few tunes and talked about the blues in general, his career,
> and various other topics. He dropped Eric's name numerous times during
the
> show.
>
> He mentioned that for the benefit concert in New York (where he appeared
> with Clapton), EC's folks contacted him and asked him to rehearse the
tunes
> with Paul Schaeffer's band, since he knew them well. Eric apparently
> showed up at the last minute to perform at the show, without rehearsing.
>
> As you may recall from my post on Monday, Greg Kot had recently written
> that Clapton was one of the most overrated musicians. During the
> interview, with Buddy mentioning Clapton frequently and questions being
> asked about Buddy being the idol to many guitarist (Page and Clapton in
> particular), not once did Mr. Kot have anything disparaging about Clapton
> in the presence of Buddy Guy.
>
> Dale
>
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I just wanted to add that I think ec's sound was much sweeter to the ears
when he used to play his guitar, whether it be Gibson or Fender. It
seems that he basically put down his guitar and quit playing it as he did
until maybe 1970. I became a Clapton fan when I heard the guitar sound
of his, not the voice. His concerts may be great experiences, I don't
know: I have not been to one of his since about 1980.
Maybe Eric should release a live concert. Everyone raves about the live
sound of the concert, so why not release an album of live sound rather
than the disappointment of the sterilized studio album of Pilgrim and
Reptile?
Jim Busch
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From: "Brian Sleeman"
Subject: Tree Announcement for Doyle Bramhall II Set
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I've got this posted in a few other places and figured some of you may be
interested in signing up after seeing him with Eric on this last tour. Plus
I know how big a fan Deavult is.
The 4-disc set is called "Welcome Home," and represents Doyle's two
appearances at the Antone's club in Austin, Texas this past January 4th and
5th. Rather than waste bandwidth and post all the info here, I'll refer you
to the following link:
http://ingsoc.com/waters/watersboard/msg/28044.html
Everything you need to know, including the basics on how trees work, the
track lists, etc, you can find there. If you'd like more info and can't get
that page to work, please write to:
db2tree@hotmail.com
Thanks!
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From: olli oksala
Subject: Thank God..
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Hi all,
After reading Tony's message on last SD I was quite amazed:
Here was a really sincere message, from a nice guy and content was (I
think), that Clapton would be better if he had stayed in his 60's
trousers. Anyway I have to disagree.
I know this kind of attitude prevails, but when I look at those guys
he mentioned I must thank God (not you, Eric), that he (Eric, I mean)
followed his intuitions and
chose another and more creative path.
Maybe those musicians, who Tony mentioned haven't chosen to be
unsucceesful, it could be, that they can't do it any other way.
Trying to recreate your youth isn't that creative, IMHO.
If you read Clapton's comments on his past, one of the most unhappy
eras seems to be his Cream years.
If he had stayed there, I think he would've been destroyed.
Anyway, it's nice there's been enough people, who still like his
music and the way he plays and sings.
Clapton has made his money decades ago, still EC decided to do his
last mammoth tour in 2001.
I'm sure, that wasn't for the money. It was for the love of his music
and audience.
Hopefully we'll see him onstage somedazy, playing in his own
unfashionable way, not the way his critics would like.
Olli
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From: "DeltaNick"
Subject: Re: Overrated???
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Tony,
>> Hmmm... I don't think it is so much that fans of the early Clapton
catalog are dyed in the wool blues-rock fans, as much as they are fans of
good music. The fact that Clapton really hasn't released very much worth
listening to since the Dominos breakup is more the point. <<
Not true, there's been plenty of good music. But it's decidedly different
than yesterday's music. Maybe YOU don't like it, but others certainly do.
Music changes over time: new albums require new music.
>> Some of us just think that Clapton really isn't all that special on his
own, but what makes him great is when he is pushed by other musicians who
are also part of the creative process. Lets face it, Clapton's voice really
isn't all that great, and his song writing isn't very good either. He is
really just an incredibly talented guitar player with a bit of other talent.
His occasional song contributions with the early bands were just that, a
song here or there. LAOALS is a bunch of blues covers intermingled with his
own songs with input by Whitlock and Allman. Whitlock's vocals also added a
lot to the album. <<
In this paragraph, I think you're just plain wrong. Remember Clapton doing
that incredible version of "Ramblin' On My Mind" on the VH1 "Concert Of The
Century" in October 1999? He did it alone. And he's done plenty of other
great things alone. He always plays an acoustic set during concerts, and did
so during the 1994-1996 blues tours as well ... alone. Now, all this "other
musicians" stuff is somewhat true: Clapton normally plays in a band. But, do
you know how many times I've read that _________ has pushed Clapton "to new
heights"? This is the most uninformed blather I've ever heard, as if Duane
Allman or (fill in the blank) _________ is responsible for what Clapton has
done. There are exciting times and boring times, good days and bad days. But
Eric Clapton plays his own guitar and sings his own notes. And regarding
Clapton's voice: it's not your voice, but what you do with it. Clapton's
voice is rather plain and light. But what he's done with it, especially in
the last several years, is fantastic. I believe that he's taken to working
on his singing the way he used to work on his guitar playing back in the
'60s. Plenty of singers have unremarkable voices. So what. It's what they DO
with those voices that counts. In fact, I don't really care for great
voices, but I do like passionate singing. And Clapton provides tons of it,
unlike some of the great voices out there.
>> For the most part, at least to my ears, Clapton doesn't even sound like
he enjoyed playing a lot of the music he released over the past 30 years.
When listeners can tell you are just going through the motions then maybe it
is time to find some other line of work. I would have much rather seen him
become much less popular and played/recorded the music he really enjoyed
than release a lot of drivel in the hopes of getting airplay and selling out
arenas. <<
I think Clapton has done exactly what he's wanted to do. However, throughout
the course of his career, that's changed over time, as no doubt it will
continue to change. Maybe you don't enjoy his latest as much as you enjoyed
his '60s work, but others do.
>> There are so many artists from the late '60s and early '70s that dropped
off the planet (in the commercial success view point) that are still making
music they love and want to play, and then doing small tours to support
them. When you see them play live they are just really into what they're
playing and appear to be having a great time. They don't care about the
commercial success, they made their money and can afford to do what they
want. <<
Many of those artists are stuck in a rut and bitter. To say that they don't
care about commercial success is hokum. Everyone who dedicates his or her
life to a line of work hopes for finacial reward. And when was the last time
YOU walked away from a few hundred thousand dollars?
>> Maybe Clapton should think about doing what he wants to like some of his
contemporaries. I would rather listen to the post-'60s offerings of Jorma
Kaukonen, Steve Winwood, Alvin Lee, Peter Green and David Gilmour (outside
of the Floyd). <<
Then what are you doing here? Nobody's stopping you from joining the Hot
Tuna or Steve Winwood digests. I receive the Steve Winwood "Smiling Phases"
digest, and there is virtually NOTHING going on in Winwood's career right
now: nada, zip. I really like Winwood, but he no longer even has a recording
contract. It's a shame, but his recordings simply have not sold much of
late. I am 99.99% sure that the artists you mention above, some of whom I
respect greatly, desire greater commercial success than they currently
enjoy.
>> Don't get me wrong, there are lots of bands from the '70s, '80s, and '90s
that I listen to, from blues to rock to jazz to pop, and Clapton's offerings
from that time period can't compete. <<
Tony, I don't especially like Clapton's '70s music very much. But don't tell
me that Clapton's music "can't compete" with that of others. It HAS competed
and done especially well. Both "461 Ocean Boulevard" and "Slowhand," for
example, sold extremely well and continue to sell. They stood up then stand
up today to the competition quite well. Maybe you or I don't listen to them
much, but a whole bunch of others do. I also don't like "No Reason To Cry,"
very much, except for one track: "Double Trouble." It's worth the price of
the whole album, and it's great!
I enjoy--to a greater or lesser degree--most of Clapton's work since the
1960s. However, I wish he continued to concentrate on the guitar more than
he currently does. I wish he concentrated on the guitar the way he
concentrates on his singing. But he doesn't. Bryan Reid probably summed it
up best in yesterday's Slowhand Digest: [H]e just made a conscious decision
to stop being a "guitar god."
Clapton made and continues to make his choices. You and I can walk away, as
I did some 30 years ago. But I'm not surprised you're still here: it
indicates that there is something about Clapton that continues to attract
you.
DeltaNick
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From: olli oksala
Subject: Thank God...
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Hi all,
I read a very sincere message from a very nice guy Tony, but once
again I must disagree.
Tony thought, that EC would've been much better and happy if he had
stayed in his 60's trousers.
If you read Clapton's comments on his past, you'll notice, that one
of the most unhappy eras were his days with Cream.
If he had stayed there, I think he would've been destroyed.
Tony gave us some examples of musicians staying true to the 60's.
I'm not quite sure, if these guys have chosen to be unsucceesful,
maybe they couldn't do better.
Anyway, I must thank God (not you, Eric), that he (Eric, I mean)chose
another and more creative path.
Trying to recreate your youth isn't that creative.
It's great there's still people, who enjoy Clapton playing and
singing the music he wants to play.
Clapton has made his money years ago. This last mammoth tour wasn't
about money.
It was a farewell and thank you to those real friends of EC's music.
Hopefully someday we can see him once again playing the way he
himself choses and not the way these critics think he should.
Cheers,
Olli
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From: "Sam Mangano"
Subject: keeping the blues alive
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if your local sunday paper has the Parade magazine in the insert with the
circulars, the 1/13/02 edition had a nice article on a blues club in chicago
called "the basement" next to the Blue Chicago Store blues bar. on sunday
nites, from 8-12, kids under 12 are free, everyone else $5. they are trying
to promote the blues to the young to keep it alive for future generations.
there is a house band that plays, and background lectures on blues history
are given. also, audience members can jam, either with their own
instruments or borrowing the house bands.
cya,
sambo#8
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From: "noah seidenberg"
Subject: RE:Buddy Whittington
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Apurva said,
"Also, does anyone know how good the new Mayall guitarist Buddy Whittington
is? He's not new, but the latest rather. Anyone heard him play? please
advise"
Apurva, I saw John Mayall's Blues Breakers open for Peter Green last spring
at Chicago's Park West and was very impressed. I really enjoyed Buddy's
guitar playing, he carried the band. In recommend seeing him if you can.
Noah
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