slowhand Digest Volume 02 : Issue 21
Today's Topics:
Re: Budokan soundboard offer
Wanted: EC at the Denver Pepsi Center 7-30-01
Fw: criticizing critics
Wanted: EC at the Denver Pepsi Center 7-30-01 (fwd)
Bramhall II "Welcome Home" Tree Structure Posted
re: Recommendations from 70s and 80s
Eric's 1980's studio albums
Pilgrim Soundboards for trade?/Outtakes?
Re: Recommendations from 80's and 70's
Warner Remasters,which ones?
Nothing But the blues tour soundboards anyone?
Anyone have these shows for trade? I have lots in return
non EC material
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From: "Von"
Subject: Re: Budokan soundboard offer
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It's been a long time coming, but I'd like to openly thank Pat for some very fine cd's some months back. I can vouch for the quality recordings I received from Pat, just in case anyone has any doubts, wonders, or questions.
Von :-)
+AD4-And to show we should all give a little I'll do the same except for the
+AD4-first 3 to e-mail me I'll b+ACY-p the last concert of this tour on the 15th of December.
+AD4-But only the first 3. (or 4 :-)))
+AD4-Cheers to you Olli
+AD4-Pat
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From: "David P. Roberts"
Subject: Wanted: EC at the Denver Pepsi Center 7-30-01
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I'm looking for a copy of EC at the Denver Pepsi Center on 7-30-01.
I was there - took my 9 year old who is an up and comming fan - both
new stuff and old Cream stuff! It was a great concert made more
notable by the spontaneous jam when Eric's pickup went out.
I have some stuff to trade.If you have this concert, please email me
and lets see what we can work out.
Thanks
Dave
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From: "Dwyer"
Subject: Fw: criticizing critics
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> True enough, Fabio, but here's the rub for the critic: It's darn hard to
get PAID for writing criticism
John,
That's exactly my point, I don't think they deserve to earn ANY money at all
to write personal opinions:-) One thing is to call someone experienced in a
specific matter to give some advises concerned to help society (for
instance, what you did as a non-profitable media commentator); other is to
call someone WITHOUT real experience (like the weirdos you described) to say
their mere opinions about someone with a great (and deserved) reputation.
And as Ken mentioned, many times what moves them is the respect (fear) and
money coming from the publishing companies that owns their media vehicle.
IMO, they're in the same group of disc-jockeys that get money on the side
from major companies to promote their 'new talents' by giving them more
airplay.
Because someone as Clapton (not because I'm his fan, that includes many
others I don't follow but I respect) is so stablished, this kind of rage
criticism he receives sometimes sounds so gratutious. It's simple
auto-promotion. Who is more talked about: one of the thousands that praise
the Beatles, or one crazy who put them down? What's so dificult to many
people is to comprehend that even if you don't like some artist, you can
(and must, in many cases) recognize their value. For instance, I don't like
The Doors by any means, but I think anyone who doesn't recognize their
importance to rock and to the culture of the 60's is not capable to break
the link between personal taste and History.
Anyway, everybody have tastes and opinions, I don't think mine is more
important than anyone else's, so I wouldn't like to get paid for that, and
make a living with this money. Maybe critics should pay copyright taxes
whenever they make money exploring somebodyelse's art.
Cheer's Fabio
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From: David Hillman
Subject: Wanted: EC at the Denver Pepsi Center 7-30-01 (fwd)
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:22:19 -0500
From: David P. Roberts
To: slowhand@planet-torque.com
Subject: Wanted: EC at the Denver Pepsi Center 7-30-01
I'm looking for a copy of EC at the Denver Pepsi Center on 7-30-01.
I was there - took my 9 year old who is an up and comming fan - both
new stuff and old Cream stuff! It was a great concert made more
notable by the spontaneous jam when Eric's pickup went out.
I have some stuff to trade.If you have this concert, please email me
and lets see what we can work out.
Thanks
Dave
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From: "Brian Sleeman"
Subject: Bramhall II "Welcome Home" Tree Structure Posted
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The structure is available at the following URL:
http://vm.nmu.edu/bsleeman/http/antones.html
Please let me know if there are any questions or comments by writing me at
db2tree@hotmail.com
Thanks again!
-Brian
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From: Jared Donze
Subject: re: Recommendations from 70s and 80s
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For the 80s, I pretty much like all the studio
releases, except for August. In order:
1. Journeyman (great Clapton guitar, good
selection of songs)
2. Behind the Sun (big change of pace, some
great tunes, EC rips on Same Old Blues and Just
Like a Prisoner)
3. Money and Cigarettes (Dunn & Hawkins=killer
rhythm section)
4. Another Ticket (gotta love Blow Wind Blow,
Floating Bridge)
5. August (too pop-oriented, w/ bland songs)
For the 70s:
1. 461 Ocean Blvd (great songs, great
performances)
2. Slowhand (the 1st three songs are classics,
plus The Core, Mean Old Frisco)
3. Eric Clapton (a very joyful noise, some
classics here-- After Midnight, Blues Power,
Bottle of Red Wine, Let It Rain)
4. No Reason to Cry (bid Band/Dylan influence
here)
5. There's One in Every Crowd (enough w/ the
reggae already!)
6. Backless (too laid-back, I call this one
Spineless)
If Layla were listed, it would be #1
Jared
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From: jbusch2@juno.com
Subject: Eric's 1980's studio albums
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I really like Behind the Sun and August. Many people, SD'rs included,
have teed off on Eric for these two Phil Collins produced albums, but now
in the perspective of what he has done since, with the exception of FTC,
I think they stand up very well. For one thing, he played his guitar,
which has become almost non existent on recent albums. For another
thing, he played rock/blues, which I love. From the 1970's, I really
like, besides Layla, of course, 461 Ocean Boulevard and There's One in
Every Crowd. They have a looseness to them and they just sound like the
musicans are having fun. They are not polished to the point of sound
sterile like his recent albums.
Jim Busch, Loretto, MN
SDers:
I wanted to get people's impressions on Eric's much maligned 1980's
studio
albums? Is the general consensus that although he had his moments, there
weren't any top notch albums released?
What would be your top five picks for Eric's studio albums in the 1980s,
in
terms of his playing, singing, material, in that order?
Also, do you feel the same about his 1970's studio work? not incl. Layla
One more note, goto your magazine stores to check out the December 2001
Guitarists Icon magazine, they dedicated the entire mag to eric, and his
career.
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From: "Apurva Parikh"
Subject: Pilgrim Soundboards for trade?/Outtakes?
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Anyone have a pIlgrim tour soundboard for trade?
Also, anyone know if there were any Pilgrim outtakes or Reptile outtakes
from studio?
Thanks
Apurva
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From: "Scott Wallenberg"
Cc: "Slowhander"
Subject: Re: Recommendations from 80's and 70's
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It's my turn to be a critic! I do not rate the live albums in this rating.
My ratings of the 80's:
1) Money and Cigarettes 1983 Great Rhythm section!, Good rockers Ain't going
down, Shape you're in, and tasty blues like Crosscut Saw and Everybody
Oughta Change..His on the Wagon record.
2) Journeyman 1989 Very strong guitars, vocals, Acoustic slide, Blues
3) Behind the Sun 1985 Phil Collins drum sounds and guitar synth doesn't do
much for me but I did enjoy Just Like A Prisoner solo (albeit spliced) and
She's waiting had a lot of energy. Forever Man session put him and Nathan
together.
4) Another Ticket 1981 Very Lazy, Weak production. The blues numbers ie Blow
Wind Blow,Floating Bridge were good but the rockers like "catch me if you
can" and Rita Mae, were pretty lame!
5) August 1986 Too slick for my tastes. Enjoyed the songs on tour more than
the record.Holy Mother is the standout.
The 70's
1) 461 Ocean Blvd.1974 Welcome back. Not enough solos but great material and
energy.
2) Backless 1978 I just happen to love the acoustic based songs. Golden
Ring, Tell Me that you love Me,
Walk Out in the Rain. Not too many agree with me on this
3) Slowhand 1977 Lots of great songs. Cocaine, The Core, Wonderful Tonight.
4) There's One in every crowd 1975 Talk about laid back. It's a surpriser at
times but can't listen more than a couple times a year..
5) No Reason to Cry 1976 A mishmash based on no one in charge of the asylum
at Shangri-La.
Double Trouble and Last Night are good blues and Carnival rocks nicely, but
EC's voice is weak and guitarwork is sparse.
There you have it. Look forward to others opining!
Scott
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From: Apurva Parikh
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:43 PM
Subject: Recommendations from 80's and 70's
> SDers:
>
> I wanted to get people's impressions on Eric's much maligned 1980's studio
> albums? Is the general consensus that although he had his moments, there
> weren't any top notch albums released?
>
> What would be your top five picks for Eric's studio albums in the 1980s,
in
> terms of his playing, singing, material, in that order?
>
> Also, do you feel the same about his 1970's studio work? not incl. Layla
>
>
> One more note, goto your magazine stores to check out the December 2001
> Guitarists Icon magazine, they dedicated the entire mag to eric, and his
> career.
>
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From: "Apurva Parikh"
Subject: Warner Remasters,which ones?
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Folks, was just wondering, which of Eric's albums have been reissued from
Warner in the new Remasters editions, and if anyone knows which ones will be
released in the near future?
Thanks
Apurva
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From: "Apurva Parikh"
Subject: Nothing But the blues tour soundboards anyone?
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In my search for soundboards for the 1994-95 From the Cradle support tour,
anyone have any good soundboards for trade?
Also, i know eric auctioned off a red Gibson Firebird, but i read that a fan
gave that to him before a show and he played it in a show during 1994-95
tour. Which show was this? And did Eric ever play a gibson les paul in the
FTC support tour/
Thanks
Apurva
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From: "Apurva Parikh"
Subject: Anyone have these shows for trade? I have lots in return
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1970
Unsurpassed Eric Clapton (Yellow Dog / SB6) • This is the "Delaney Mix" of
Clapton's first solo album.
LZ Was There (Tarantura / SB5+) 4 December 1974 and LZ Was Here (Tarantura /
SB6) 5 December 1974 • These two Tarantura sets represent the last two shows
of the "Comeback Tour". The "LZ" in the title indicates that members of Led
Zeppelin were in attendance. The set lists vary and they are both incredible
shows.
1991
Play With Fire (Blues Power / SB6) • This is a complete nine-piece band
performance from the Royal Albert Hall run from 17 February 1991
1992
Completely Unplugged (The Gold Standard - double set catalog numbers UP356
and CM340 / SB5) • This is the complete session recorded at Bray Studios on
16 January 1992.
Acoustic Tale (Backstage / SB5) which has most of the unreleased material on
a single disc. Its version of "Running On Faith" is the same as the official
release. Clapton's comments between songs are priceless.
Another Page (Red Phantom / 4); Tears In Heaven (KTS / 4); The Circus Has
Left Town (KTS / 4); or Eric Clapton Live Volumes 2 & 3 (AMCOS / 4) •
1994
>From The Cradle To The Fillmore West (Moonlight / SB5) •
Kind Of Blues (Midvalley / SB6) or LA Forum (label unknown / SB6)
1995
Bring Me No More Blues (Slowhand / 5)
Blues In The Hall (RAH / 6)
1998
Wonderful Night At Las Vegas (NA6 / 5) \
THanks
Apurva
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From: "Pat Toth"
Subject: non EC material
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Sorry about taking up space for non-EC material.
I ran across an old Muddy Waters 78 r.p.m. record the other day called "Got My Mojo Working"
circa 1952. You know it's one of those thick type discs that will shatter if dropped. Does anyone out there
have any idea on what it's worth
thanks
Buster
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